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Alexa's Points

Alexa's Points

Postby Grymn » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:46 pm

Alexa in her post regarding her choice to step down as leader mentioned the following issues:

    - We have people who lurk in soc chat and choose to remain silent all the time they are logged in.
    - We have people who only ever chat when they want something.
    - We have people who never join in with any soc activity no matter how small.
    - We have people who only log in once in a while so they can retain their membership in soc.
    - We have people who don't make the effort to log onto this website. Even once a month is too much.
    - We have people who are too lazy to find out anything for themselves and always expect me to be there for them.

These are real problems and ones that will be addressed over the upcoming weeks.

The dictionary defines a society as:

    *companionship or association with one's fellows;

    *a voluntary association of individuals for common ends; especially : an organized group working together or periodically meeting because of common interests, beliefs, or profession;

    *an enduring and cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction with one another;

    *a community, broad grouping of people having common traditions, ..., and collective activities and interests

Taking those definitions and applying them to Alexa's points you can see that we are failing as a Society.


In particular the definition of a society that states:

    a voluntary association of individuals for common ends; especially : an organized group working together or periodically meeting because of common interests, beliefs, or profession;

is just not being met by many "society" members.

The key phrase from the list of definitions is...cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction with one another.

If you are one of those folks so eloquently described by Alexa you need to become a part of the society and not part of the problem.

If you are one of the people who only log in once in a while so they can retain their membership in soc. Leave and find a society that offers what you want, if you even know what that is.

The key to us remaining a viable community is to be part of it.

Enough said.
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Re: Alexa's Points

Postby Sr Vince » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:34 pm

I fail at some of these points but for me in the marines its hard and in a game I'm not.as fimirable as wow and the. Fact that I have never deposited makes reputaion annoying. We need to some how go back to.the. beging when this.soc was fresh and new where we inveolved everyone no matter there skills but.si.ce there's. New worlds and space we need to have.a.set.defined goal like work. Toward a society land grab event where we win. If we could get.something like this I think are socity could grow because we could use funds from land towards hunts and other events.
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Re: Alexa's Points

Postby Seri » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:11 pm

I am not trying to argue with you Vince but, if we can't even manage to get people to hunt together, how are we going to win and control a land area.
And as you pointed out, many of us do not deposit, so there is no way that we could buy the guns and such we need to compete in a land grab.
Nor do we as a society, have the skills to compete, because some people refuse to even comply with the low level skill requirements instituted by Alexa.
Of course, this is all just my opinion. And as we know, opinions are like. . . anyways you get my point on that.
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Re: Alexa's Points

Postby Sr Vince » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:21 am

yes Seri then what we have to do is come up with a plan to make proffits.
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Re: Alexa's Points

Postby Rappa » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:45 pm

Grymn wrote:If you are one of the people who only log in once in a while so they can retain their membership in soc. Leave and find a society that offers what you want, if you even know what that is.

The key to us remaining a viable community is to be part of it.

Enough said.


Yay!!!

edit: What I meant to say was YAY!!!!
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Re: Alexa's Points

Postby Rappa » Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:08 pm

Sr Vince wrote:yes Seri then what we have to do is come up with a plan to make proffits.


Although noble in theory, reality is a harsh mistress. There is no greater truth to profit in EU as "it takes money to make money". The average player in LG has over 100k-200k ped of weapons alone and it takes one set of carramone with a AIMK2 to wipe even them out. That aside, the 4.50 ped daily return is hardly worth that kind of investment.

The point of that example is not to be overlooked however. Those guys don't do it for the profit. (Ok, the player with the unique carramone and AIMK2 does, but this example still applies). They do it for the fun and that is where realistic expectations lay. The fun is what kept us all in the game this far and it is what will keep us around for years to come.

Now if on the other hand you want to buy a hanger, I know a guy... :lol:
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Re: Alexa's Points

Postby Alex Flapman Satara » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:15 pm

REPORTING for duty! :D

I have read all Alexa's points and like Vince, I fall down on many. This is mostly because I don't have a lot of time to play. Henceforth, my low level even after playing since 2006. I also have a lot of time I spend elsewhere such as with my own Virtual World project.

When I was actively playing, I did try to chime in and say hi when on and in SOC chat however, SOC activities were in most cases in areas and levels way out of my survivability range. I was also often grouped with others that set the loot order to "damage." Usually, I got nothing as a result. So, I went off on my own.

Now, if you want to bring back SCTC into its glory, I am game. I would love to go out on hunts or mining or participate in an event to get land. I really think if we had a society claim we could generate funds for the group. Basically run it as a business. Of course, that will require those that don't deposite to think about doing so. This is a virtual economy after all and although it is not perfect, it is one and we can still make it work for our benefit.

We could also think about starting a space squadron so we can protect people from the idiots up in space that choose to go the route of "Pirate." There is definitely a need there and I would love to shoot down those buggas. Owning land and land deeds on Calypso may have merit as well. I could not buy much myself (still paying from a divorce and more recently being laid off from work) but I did buy 2. I know that won't do much independently since you need 3 to build on and 9 in order to be able to. That by myself would have too much an investment. I did want to see however, what the payout percentage was.

Anyways, that's my 2-cents for now. :)
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